NEWS: Japan allows self-guided tours and raises daily entry limit to 50,000 – Forum

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As always, it’s the details that count.

The requirements for a pre-approved travel plan in order to obtain an ERFS certificate and a visa appear to be maintained.

[EDIT] PS, I took a trip to Japan on a tourist visa (4 days) last Thursday/Friday/Sat/Sun leaving Monday morning as an individual with a guide to attend the https://anisama.tv concerts and shopping for second-hand CDs. Everything went well apart from the stress of registering on PIA to retrieve e-tickets, and of course it was much more expensive and less spontaneous than what I had done during 2011-2019 when traveling in Japan.


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“Sponsors”? Can my Onlyfans sponsors then send me to Japan? And are individual travelers allowed again, even if it has to go through an agency, or not? How do they always use unnecessarily specific or unnecessarily vague wording on this…

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Getting closer and closer to regular tourism. I really want to go to Japan next year…

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kuma991 wrote:

“Sponsors”? Can my Onlyfans sponsors then send me to Japan? And are individual travelers allowed again, even if it has to go through an agency, or not? How do they always use unnecessarily specific or unnecessarily vague wording on this…

You can book an individual trip through an agency. I know with the rise of the internet they went out of style (and AAA has told me in the past that they don’t really do Japan so that doesn’t help) but they’re definitely still around and Japan-based agencies usually have flash sales on airline tickets.

While I imagine there’s a side benefit that would help agencies that have probably been floundering over the last 2 years, I guess the primary reason for the restriction is still to have some insurance and control over who enters and leaves the country. You still can’t spontaneously travel to Japan, but with 170,000 new cases per day, I’m not sure I want to.


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I think they are slowly getting ready for everyone to flood the country, because Japan is usually one of the top 10 places to visit in tourism.

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JoeMello wrote:

You can book an individual trip through an agency.

Can I though?

https://www.kantei.go.jp/jp/101_kishida/statement/2022/0831kaiken2.html

「9月 7 日 より 入国 者 数 上限 上限 を 5 人 人 に 引き上げる とともに 、 全て を を に に 添乗員 添乗員 を パッケージ パッケージ パッケージ ツアー を 可能 する する など 、 、 緩和 緩和 を 行う と いたし 可能 と と と と となど、更なるををことといたしいたしますますますますます」

“We will allow all countries to participate in self-guided tour packages,” was all Kishida said on the matter. No date, no details, just a general intention. This has been the case since the Olympics.


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I’m not sure what “sponsors” means in this context. Maybe a situation where someone comes for business purposes, but stays longer for sightseeing? Or is it something where an agency creates an itinerary, sells it, and then the person is otherwise on their own? Having a contact with a travel agency is more like a self-made itinerary that is then entrusted to a travel agency.

The allowance for self-guided tourism which also has to be tracked in some way by a travel agency certainly seems like a good deal for these companies. Either they get paid as part of the cost of entry without having to do much else, or people come to see them and pay a flat fee because they decide it’s too complicated to understand, especially if there’s a chance that not doing things perfectly right means you can’t go or get stuck in an airport until it’s fixed.


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JoeMello wrote:
kuma991 wrote:

“Sponsors”? Can my Onlyfans sponsors then send me to Japan? And are individual travelers allowed again, even if it has to go through an agency, or not? How do they always use unnecessarily specific or unnecessarily vague wording on this…

You can book an individual trip through an agency. I know with the rise of the internet they went out of style (and AAA has told me in the past that they don’t really do Japan so that doesn’t help) but they’re definitely still around and Japan-based agencies usually have flash sales on airline tickets.

While I imagine there’s a side benefit that would help agencies that have probably been floundering over the last 2 years, I guess the primary reason for the restriction is still to have some insurance and control over who enters and leaves the country. You still can’t spontaneously travel to Japan, but with 170,000 new cases per day, I’m not sure I want to.

I’m leaving on Thursday to return to Japan after two years in America with my children/grandchildren. When I went to the embassy in DC, there were few tourists applying and had to be represented by JTA agents. A young man in his twenties had to be accompanied by a JALPAK agent to sign his permission indicating that he was part of a registered tour group.

However, 50k day is 350,000 per week or 1.4m per month!!!

No matter. The requirement for a tour guide is waived from 7.SEPT. (Daily Yomiuri)

https://www.yomiuri.co.jp/politics/20220831-OYT1T50000/

https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/japan-travel-covid-19/index.html

EDIT: Link to CNN included


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kuma991 wrote:
JoeMello wrote:

You can book an individual trip through an agency.

Can I though?

https://www.kantei.go.jp/jp/101_kishida/statement/2022/0831kaiken2.html

「9月 7 日 より 入国 者 数 上限 上限 を 5 人 人 に 引き上げる とともに 、 全て を を に に 添乗員 添乗員 を パッケージ パッケージ パッケージ ツアー を 可能 する する など 、 、 緩和 緩和 を 行う と いたし 可能 と と と と となど、更なるををことといたしいたしますますますますます」

“We will allow all countries to participate in self-guided tour packages,” was all Kishida said on the matter. No date, no details, just a general intention. This has been the case since the Olympics.

Because the travel agencies have the details, or are supposed to.

In fact, I’ve spoken to some and they’re still figuring out what the difference is between “unguided” and “guided” tours. For one thing, the travel agency sponsors still have to make sure the tourists are okay, but how to do that without hiring said tour guide at least to some degree is the question. At least for a normal guided tour, the guide is available to help tourists in case of any problem.

But it was already something for a long time delegated to the tourist agencies, Kishida will not specify it because it is up to them to take care of the details.


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